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  This just happened within last 15 mins......

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  2. experiences

  i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

  the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

  i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Either he's pulling our legs, or he/she has a mental disorder. Either one might explain the self-contradiction and overall incoherency of his/her posts.

  As for my being an 'apostate,' I have actually never been a JW. My Christian associations are with the D.O.C. (Disciples of Christ). Like the JWs, we are pretty 'works oriented.' However, our works revolve around helping others, no matter what their faith or background. We've cleaned up neighborhoods in underpriveleged areas, we've offered shelter to the homeless, we've put together our own missions to other countries to help with water filtration...to ANYBODY. And by the way, we're NOT the ONLY denomination who does this kind of work. Ever heard of the Salvation Army??

  All this work is only a fraction of what's needed. But we try. We try to imitate Jesus as best we can. By following his example as outlined in Acts 20:35.

  I wonder how Dedorio imitates Jesus? If at all.
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  This just happened within last 15 mins......

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

  the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

  i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Because, if so. Then you are commiting a disfellowshipping offence by taking part in bad associations...with known apostates.

  I'm sure that if your elders, or CO knew of your visits to this site, they would move promptly to a judicial comittee. Furthermore, you may think that no one knows your actual identity. But Jehovah knows. Why would you brazenly defy Jehovah by mingling with apostates? Or do you really, deep down, harbor some doubts about God's 'true' organization. Well, Jehovah can read those doubts too.

  Jehovah aside, one with a bit of internet savvy, and basic hacking skills, could easily find your IP address, and your geographic location down to a few city blocks. From there, it would be simple to find which Kingdom Halls serve your area, and warn the elders that one of it's members, with internet protocol of XX.XXXX.... is a brazen mingler among apostates. Since you probably bring an ipad, or iphone, with your KHs IP address stored in the device for automatic log-in, then it would be pretty easy to check the router for your device's IP.

  This could be going on as I type this.

  Be afraid, very afraid.
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  This just happened within last 15 mins......

  by Lied2NoMore in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i saw an instagram post showing a short clip of a talk being given in one of our southern states.

  the talk clip showed speaker making the statement, "jehovah doesn't want anyone to know satans real name, jehovah hates satan so much, he doesn't even want his name mentioned" .

  i posted in comments: matt 5:44-48 with the full scripture rendered from niv.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Dedorio. I take it that you're a JW. Is that correct?
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  Candace Conti Case

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  filed:.

  letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .

  click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Didn't the court ruling state that the WT was NOT required to protect the congregation?

  They ruled that the WT didn't have a 'duty to warn' the other members of the congregation about J Kendrick, the molester. However, they DID find the Watchtower NEGLIGENT for 'lack of supervision' during field service.

  That finding of negligence, by itself, could open the door for many more lawsuits, since countless numbers of children have spent countless hours alone with strangers in their cars, during 'field service.' That's my takeaway, FWIW. I'm not a JW, but I think I have an idea of the big picture. Especially when looking at the multi-million dollar lawsuits that have sucessfully forced many Catholic diocese into bankruptcy. And yes, I do believe that attorney Zalkin was behind some of these lawsuits. And I do believe that the GB knows this too, or at least their own attorneys do.
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  Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

  i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

  and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Anyone??

  Seriously, I don't know if the elderoos see me as a: potential recruit, a threat to congregational unity, or a mixture of both.

  Like I say. Wife and I get along well. I have a pretty good job, am educated, and I like to do cool stuff with my family (travel, outdoors, sport events, ect.)

  Elders know I'm very protective of my kids, and would deal with any possible abuse issues in a very brutal manner. Just wondering if they get to suspecting something about her, maybe not being 100% R&F JW, then how far would they push this snooping/stalking/harrasment, knowing that I'm around.
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  Has anyone had a jw hack into their email/tablet/phone etc to spy?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i note stillin has had a recent problem with this.

  i also know of two cases were an elder went through a brothers phone to get dirt on him.

  and another were a sisters email was hacked into to get dirt on her.. in both cases apparently it was for their spiritual protection (!

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  WOW!! Is all I can say.

  All these accounts of people being snooped on, stalked, or having their house broken into, have me thinking WTF?!?

  Question:

  Suppose you have a couple. Wife is JW, hubby's not, never was, never will be, hence he's not considered 'apostate.' Hubby has good relationship with wife, and he 'gets along' with the elders. How likely is it that these elders will go snooping on a couple/family like this one. Knowing full well that the 'unbelieving' hubby isn't subject to their stupid rules, and he keeps a 12 gauge shotgun in the house.
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  'Conti' Court decision secures Watchtower's Policy of confidentiality

  by telemetry11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the court on the rule of confidentiality of penitential communications and evidentiary privilege--.. decision reads:.

  "the law generally protects the confidentiality of communications with clergy like those of kendrick to the elders here.".

  "if the person has a constitutional right to independence in making religious choices, the recognition of an evidentiary privilege is an apt means of protecting that autonomy.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Dude, are you high, or something?

  I think it's more a case of literal "if/then" type of self-analysis run amok. Sort of like Kirk vs Nomad:

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G6o881n35GU
  
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  'Conti' Court decision secures Watchtower's Policy of confidentiality

  by telemetry11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the court on the rule of confidentiality of penitential communications and evidentiary privilege--.. decision reads:.

  "the law generally protects the confidentiality of communications with clergy like those of kendrick to the elders here.".

  "if the person has a constitutional right to independence in making religious choices, the recognition of an evidentiary privilege is an apt means of protecting that autonomy.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  "adversly affects church freedom..."

  Well..."boo f-ing hoo." Poor churches. Poor catholic diocese getting sued and going bankrupt.

  It's the same logic that the NRA uses in the US. After Justice Scalia all but obliterated the "well regulated militia" clause, they feel it as an attack against their 'freedoms' when gun control measures are proposed. What about MY freedom to be able to walk into a Wal-Mart, without running into bubba and his AR-15 slung over his shoulder?

  Likewise, what about MY freedom to not have a PEDOPHILE come knocking at my door, when the elders who assigned him that territory know FULL WELL that he has a criminal history of pedophilia.

  Deal with it "churches." No one's taking away your freedom of worship. In fact, you're getting quite the tax break. Think about THAT, "fisherboy."
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  'Conti' Court decision secures Watchtower's Policy of confidentiality

  by telemetry11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the court on the rule of confidentiality of penitential communications and evidentiary privilege--.. decision reads:.

  "the law generally protects the confidentiality of communications with clergy like those of kendrick to the elders here.".

  "if the person has a constitutional right to independence in making religious choices, the recognition of an evidentiary privilege is an apt means of protecting that autonomy.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  The way you two banter back & forth (vidiot & punk), reminds me of Hawkeye Pierce & Hunnicutt/Trapper from MASH. Funny as hell.

  I guess that makes me Col. Blake.

  Hmmm, who's our Frank Burns?
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  'Conti' Court decision secures Watchtower's Policy of confidentiality

  by telemetry11 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the court on the rule of confidentiality of penitential communications and evidentiary privilege--.. decision reads:.

  "the law generally protects the confidentiality of communications with clergy like those of kendrick to the elders here.".

  "if the person has a constitutional right to independence in making religious choices, the recognition of an evidentiary privilege is an apt means of protecting that autonomy.

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  Boeing Stratofortress

  Fisherman lives up to HIS name: an overly pedantic, word-twisting troll, who is no doubt a JW, or at least their biggest apologist.

  And I thought JWs were to 'imitate Jesus.' Hmmm, I missed the part in the Bible where Jesus referred to others as "idiots." Was it after meeting the Samaratin? The leper? What a way to represent your faith.